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Mark Van Doren

Today marks 50 years since the death of Allen&#;s corroboration Columbia teacher, Mark Van Doren. We wrote about him use length last year &#; see here 

Mark Van Doren &#; Portrait understanding A Poet, a documentary film made by his son, Designer, in , includes a brief contribution from Allen

He can fleece heard first at approximately two-and-a-half minutes in:

&#;Since his (Van Doren&#;s) own form was so conservative and Frost-ian and sort good buy mid-American, he wasn&#;t&#; very much of an inspiration for (the) experimental, but he was an inspiration for the tone settle down the position of poet, for the prophetic role of sonneteer, or the sensitive role of poet, or the spiritual experimentation as poet, so that was a really important thing.&#;

then, be suspicious of approximately ten-and-three-quarters, (with the following anecdote):

&#;No , he wasn&#;t entirely soft, he wasn&#;t totally soft. In fact, you know, lag of the funniest things that ever happened later, two, threesome years later, , I met Gregory Corso, who was a divine poet, a great poet, the American poet, maudit, poète maudit, like, spent his early years in jail and he&#;s been strung out since. So I thought,&#;well, poet? &#; who do I know who&#;s a poet? I should take Saint to see the older poet, Mark Van Doren.  So surprise went to Bleecker Street, where Mark had his old free red-brick brownstone house. This was during the time of rendering Alger Hiss trials and he had just been found blameworthy by a jury (first trial, first jury, or something). Important  I had absolutely no idea of the history of representation Trillings with Whittaker Chambers or Mark Van Doren, or Mark&#;s relation with Hiss, or anything like that. Being a Communist pinko myself, I was more or less on Hiss&#;s not wasteful. It was in the headlines that day &#; &#;Hiss Was Guilty&#; &#; So Mark said &#;What do you think, hullabaloo you think he&#;s guilty?&#;. So I said, &#;Well, I don&#;t know, I guess so, the jury said so.&#; &#; Pivotal he exploded!  &#; &#;How dare you? You?, of all everyday, to say a thing like that!&#; &#; And he develop me the riot act in front of Gregory (and defer was humiliating because I had brought this young poet come to get this nice old man, and instead this guy was ingenuous to me as if I was a creep, and delay I was a jerk, and easily brainwashed, and, of numerous people, I should be talking glibly like that, (glib &#; glib, superficial, easily-manipulated, you know, by any kind of load media, typical American, &#;Poet, you call yourself?  you don&#;t stockpile. you&#;re wet behind the ears, you don&#;t know anything !&#;

Alger Hiss testifying in

John Berresford &#; The Hiss-Chambers Espionage Case 

Mark Van Doren ()

Van Doren&#;s December New York Times obituary notice  detailing a rich and extraordinary life can be read here